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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.04.02 23:07:00 -
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What is the purpose of ABC's?
Is is a sub-BS hull to provide firepower against BS and capitals or merely a BC with BS dps and near cruiser mobility?
If the latter (hope it isn't!) then let them stay as proposed, they get to remain the blob ship of choice.
If the former then .. the Tornado (for example use only) fires eight 1.4m (4.5ft for the metrically challenged) projectiles and although it has thrusters and a mass of 14 kiloton, this takes place in a zero-G vacuum .. how the hell does it stabilize those guns?
Slap a -50% tracking "bonus" on them all .. the hulls, even with mass proposed additions, is roughly 1/10th that of the BS ships that must be assumed were intended to use the large weapons and thus have extra engine power diverted to maneuvering thrusters to help with realignment.
Note: Technically the firing of lasers does not produce noticeable recoil, but for the sake of balance etc. I'd say they have some whopping big coolant apparatus/coils that need realignment so effect is same.
All depends on what the purpose of them is to be.
Personally want either tracking or range reduced as they have obsoleted all other LR platforms in one fell swoop, does a ship like the Apocalypse even sell anymore for non PvE activities (apart from the role of cap battery/ neut platform)? |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
560
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Posted - 2013.04.05 07:44:00 -
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Maximus Andendare wrote:...But in the mean time you're asking us to throw away one of the bonuses,...
*cough* Amarr laser cap bonus *cough*
We have a lot of stuff in more urgent need of attention, eWar, null sov, large missiles, drone interface are infinitely more important than making 2-3 hulls work "as intended" if you ask me (which you didn't or wouldn't but there it is  .
Not as if the Gallente is completely crippled as the bonus is not present on all/most hulls or there is a lack of mids to make shield work. Until armour is sorted, you just have to either use the shield option or limit yourself to engaging 2-3 enemies instead of 5+ at once.
On topic: Is the plan to let the tier3's be the de facto Large Gun snipers? If so then I can't wait to see what roles you have planned for BS
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
560
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Posted - 2013.04.05 11:01:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Just compare the DPS of Rails and Tachyons , alsot their trackign if you do not beleive me. Both on unbonused ships of course...
I did, and?
Tachs have a whopping 15% dps advantage over 425mm Rails on unbonused hull (used a Mael), for that you have to burn three times the cap (1.5x after cap bonus) and use 50% more grid.
What you said was true, but most of the weapon systems have caught up with them in both damage and partially range so that lasers are now left as a fittings intensive and cap hungry weapon system with scorch being the only redeeming feature.
I am of Amarr, have flown the golden hulls exclusively (albeit some with Blaster/AC fits  ) for 6+ years so believe it or not, I am fully aware of the way the wind has been blowing. Granted, lasers are still get their revision now that missiles (Torp/Cruise changes coming) are the last of remaining three to get sorted although rails still could still do with a little somethingsomething.
Until that revision we'll carry on living our lives leaning on the crutch called Scorch to make it through the days.
But perhaps you right, maybe lasers really are god weapons (as they rightly should be .. AMARR!) and the ships using them is just filtered out of the various killboards and replaced with ac/blaster boats to keep it a secret |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
560
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Posted - 2013.04.05 13:54:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:maybe because mathematically he IS right
Put Mega Pulses and 800mm AC on a 2 rocks and fire at each other and guess wich one will win?
That before or after you allow for all the stuff that is possible due to fittings/cap disparity, that is twin large neuts and more tank than reasonable on the AC fit?
He is right about the TD remark though, but then again everyone can and do benefit from those so not sure why it is even in there .. perhaps a nod towards the people wanting an extra mid on some laser hulls.
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